{"id":81,"date":"2009-08-26T11:18:28","date_gmt":"2009-08-26T21:18:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/loqualityproducts.com\/blogs\/lqwow\/?p=81"},"modified":"2010-05-01T19:16:17","modified_gmt":"2010-05-02T05:16:17","slug":"lo-quality-hunter-who-let-this-guy-in-here","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/loqualityproducts.com\/blogs\/lqwow\/?p=81","title":{"rendered":"Lo-Quality Hunter: Who Let This Guy In Here?"},"content":{"rendered":"

A rather short night for my hunter, although that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s become something of a standard lately. I managed to get in my dailies, greatly assisted by the Argent Crusader\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Tabard<\/a> allowing for a quick port over to the tournament grounds. However, when I tried to get into a Heroic Trial of the Champion, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s where things took an extremely wrong turn.
\nI was just about to switch to my mage when I got the invite. I checked and saw that the other three already in the party were all Death Knights, so I knew we were searching for a healer. A quick check in Looking For Group showed only dps people. So I had time to fly back to the Tournament grounds. We search for awhile, when the leader asks if anyone had a guildmate who could heal. I said that I had a healer on but he was currently in Trial of the Crusader. The leader replied \u00e2\u20ac\u0153lol, and that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s where we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re going!\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n

\u00e2\u20ac\u0153What?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Apparently he didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know there was a difference between Trial of the Champion and Trial of the Crusader. Okay, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s fine, nothing to worry about. He then finds a shaman who had to respec over to restoration to act as a healer. Then one of the other DK\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s asks for a summon and the leader says \u00e2\u20ac\u0153there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s no summoning stone here.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Er, yes there is, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m standing right next to it.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d was my reply. Okay, again, no panic, not everyone knows about that summoning stone for some reason.<\/p>\n

So while we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re waiting for the Shaman to respec, I and one of the other DKs start talking about whether we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll run out after the dismount or not, of which we were both in favor of. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153What are you guys talking about?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d asks the leader. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153We\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll after we are auto-dismounted, usually you run out to give everyone a chance to get setup for the ground fight.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d \u00e2\u20ac\u0153What do you mean?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Uh, oh. Now I was getting worried. However, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m interrupted by the Shaman saying that it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll take him several minutes to respec, which brings in another worry. That tells me is that he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not dual spec and may not even have a \u00e2\u20ac\u0153healing set\u00e2\u20ac\u009d on him. Yeah, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a big sinking feeling right there.<\/p>\n

Anyway, we eventually summon the shaman (and for some reason we try to summon the DK standing at the instance entrance) and one of the DK\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s goes in early to kick off the encounter since it takes a minute or two to get going. I get in and mount up in time to see the leader zone in and go \u00e2\u20ac\u0153huh? What\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s going on?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Get your lance and get mounted\u00e2\u20ac\u009d \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Damn, I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t have a lance\u00e2\u20ac\u009d and he runs back out right past the lance rack near the entrance! At this point, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m already complaining on the guild channel because this shaping up to be one of those PUGs where I just end up banging my head on my table.<\/p>\n

The guy comes back in and one of the DK\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s asks that he give the tank lead or assist so that the tank can mark the targets. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Okay, who\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the tank?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Wait. You don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know who the tank is?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t it \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcDK X\u00e2\u20ac\u2122?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d \u00e2\u20ac\u0153No, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m not the tank, \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcDK Y\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 is!\u00e2\u20ac\u009d How the heck can a guy be leading a party and not know who his tank is?!? It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s right up there with the guy who I was with who grabbed two priests, expecting them to be heals, only to find that both were shadow priests! You ask that stuff BEFORE you go into an instance.<\/p>\n

And then the idiot has the audacity to go \u00e2\u20ac\u0153so, what do I need to know about this encounter?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d \u00e2\u20ac\u0153What? You\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve never been here before.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Nah, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s my first time. So what do we do?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d But it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s too late and the encounter has started. We do fine until we start facing off against the horde Champions themselves. We knock one off his horse, however our tank also gets dismounted. And instead of running to another horse, he stands there and starts melee combat with the mounted opponents! I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m about to yell at him to remount when I get dismounted. I run to get remounted and when I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m back up, I see that the one horde champion we had dismounted had remounted himself. Nobody had trampled him to keep him down!<\/p>\n

We still work at it and managed to dismount all three. So when we auto-dismount, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m already running for the entrance. The leader DK follows me out but for whatever reason, the other two DKs and the shaman don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t make it out. And instead of waiting to switch back to normal weapons or even rebuff, the leader DK runs back in again! So after the semi-wipe, we go back in and the leader DK is going \u00e2\u20ac\u0153why\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d we run out? We had them!\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Now considering the other three died really quickly after I got out of the instance, but included the tank and the healer, well that should have been a clue that we in no way \u00e2\u20ac\u0153had them\u00e2\u20ac\u009d.<\/p>\n

Okay, still trying not to panic at this point but I can already feel a migraine building. We heal up, get our regular gear on, and someone starts marking. We briefly discuss which one to take on first when the leader DK pipes up with \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Why does it matter?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d We explain that each one has different class abilities and depending on which ones we were facing, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s important to take them out in a particular order. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153I still don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t see why it matters, we can take them.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Fine, be an idiot.<\/p>\n

Just like I am by staying. But we engage. And we wipe quickly after both dps DKs go down. At this point, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve had enough. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m not in the mood for this. Sorry\u00e2\u20ac\u009d and leave the group. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m dps, so I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m easy to replace after all. I then go over to my mage.<\/p>\n

Now I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know it they ever got further than that. I know they were in there for at least another hour or so. But this was the second time I got into a Heroic ToC and it was a total waste of time, only I kept it to a minimum and left early. But that leader DK shows all that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s wrong with some players and why I hate PUGs at times.<\/p>\n

Even though he was the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153leader\u00e2\u20ac\u009d he wasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really keeping track of who was in what role. And while I personally believe if you don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know an instance that you should try it normal first, I was alright with him starting with the heroic version. But if he didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t read up or watch a video on it, he needs to mention sometime before we zone in that he doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know the fight, not when the first encounter is started. Heck, we spent several minutes waiting for the Shaman to respec where we could have leisurely explained the fights to him. And that thing that actually pissed me off the most was when I inspected him and saw that he had a Piccolo of the Flaming Fire<\/a> equipped. I sure as hell hoped he switched it out during the fight but if he kept it on during the fight, well that would definitely help to explain his barely adequate dps output.<\/p>\n

I think I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m starting to understand some of the complaints I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve been reading about since patch 3.2, the Call of the Crusade came out. Trial of the Champion does drop a lot of nice gear, better than some Naxx stuff in my opinion. But it does seem like there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a lot of people who are \u00e2\u20ac\u0153skipping\u00e2\u20ac\u009d content and running willy-nilly into ToC. Yes it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a 5-man, but you still need some level of gear for it, and if you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re not willing to get at least adequate gear and expect to \u00e2\u20ac\u0153coast\u00e2\u20ac\u009d to the upgrades while everyone takes the load of the fight, do it with your guild or friends, not in PUGs.<\/p>\n

Sigh, sorry, it just really set me off last night. Anyway, I fumed on my mage for awhile when my guildmate let me know they were doing the Vault of Archavon 25-man. So I hop back on my Hunter. Fortunately it was an Agency run and it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s become sort of rote for us. Oddly enough, the shaman from the ToC was also there and caused some controversy, which I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll get to in a sec. And quite differently from normal, there were about 5 of us hunters in the raid. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m so used to being either the only hunter or with one or two others in a 25-man. We go in and while it takes me a bit, I end up in the top three total damage dealers, under two other hunters. Considering one guy was hitting around 7k dps and I was around 5k dps with raid buffs, I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t feel too bad about my ranking.<\/p>\n

Anyway, Emalon goes down and there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a shaman\/hunter pvp item that drops. Well, the shaman won it but he had been with us as a resto shaman, which caused the controversy. Yes, he \u00e2\u20ac\u0153normally\u00e2\u20ac\u009d plays enhancement but he was there as resto and in most 25-man raids, whatever role you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re playing in the raid is what\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s considered your \u00e2\u20ac\u0153main spec\u00e2\u20ac\u009d for loot rolls. For instance my warrior\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s \u00e2\u20ac\u0153main spec\u00e2\u20ac\u009d is her tanking spec but if I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m in a raid as a dps, I could only roll on tanking gear during the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153off-spec\u00e2\u20ac\u009d roll. Now, either way I still wouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t have won the item since I managed to roll a measly \u00e2\u20ac\u01534\u00e2\u20ac\u009d but that still urked me a bit. Now I kind of wished I hadn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t cleared out my recount data. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m curious to see if he was effective as a healer, which would have mollified me a little but still it irritates me when stuff like that happens.<\/p>\n

Archavon himself was simple as usual. And naturally, two rogue specific items dropped off him when we didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t have any rogues at all! I know they talked about doing an Obsidian Sanctum 25-man but I was tired and way too pissed to be playing at that point, so I logged off. Here\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s hoping tonight will be a little more relaxing. I can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t keep playing WoW if it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll keep raising my blood pressure as it has been the past few days.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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