{"id":125,"date":"2010-06-15T17:14:17","date_gmt":"2010-06-16T03:14:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/loqualityproducts.com\/blogs\/lqwow\/?p=125"},"modified":"2010-06-28T15:52:08","modified_gmt":"2010-06-29T01:52:08","slug":"lo-quality-hunter-hysteric-heroic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/loqualityproducts.com\/blogs\/lqwow\/?p=125","title":{"rendered":"Lo-Quality Hunter:  Hysteric Heroic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After a couple of false starts, we finally had a chance to go back in to Icecrown Citadel 10-man.\u00c2\u00a0 We&#8217;re sort of at an odd place at the moment.\u00c2\u00a0 We&#8217;re skilled and geared enough that normal mode for the earlier bosses is too easy, but not geared or skilled enough to take on heroic mode on a regular basis.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>So we&#8217;ve been trying to get through the early stuff on heroic mode whenever we can.\u00c2\u00a0 Marrowgar has been a big bugga-boo for us for some reason.\u00c2\u00a0 We&#8217;re fine right up to his first whirlwind set.\u00c2\u00a0 Then we usually lose two or three people to a combination of the coldflame, the spikes and Marrowgar himself.\u00c2\u00a0 Then it just becomes a cascade effect until we wipe.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Now we have downed him before, so I get the feeling it&#8217;s partially a luck thing.\u00c2\u00a0 All it takes is one wrong person spiked\u00c2\u00a0 or spiked and then having Marrowgar dance on top of him, we just can&#8217;t handle it.\u00c2\u00a0 For instance, I got hit by a coldflame, and before I could recover, Marrowgar started spinning on my position.\u00c2\u00a0 As I tried to get out of there, he poked me with a spike.\u00c2\u00a0 The combination did me in before the healers could react.<\/p>\n<p>Eventually we gave up and just took him out on normal mode.\u00c2\u00a0 It was back to Heroic mode for Deathwhisper though and that we can do.\u00c2\u00a0 Had a shaky start though, when I guess we accidentally left an add up early and that one extra add was enough to throw our whole tactic off.\u00c2\u00a0 Second time went off without a hitch and I managed to snag the Handgrips of Frost and Steel.\u00c2\u00a0 It was an upgrade but would require fine tuning the rest of my gear.<\/p>\n<p>The gunship battle on heroic mode is cake at this point.\u00c2\u00a0 Funny how I remember the very first time we did that battle and had absolutely no clue what we were doing.<\/p>\n<p>Which of course brought us to Deathbringer Saurfang.\u00c2\u00a0 This time, we got rather experimental.\u00c2\u00a0 We tried it with two healers, which meant the Blood Beasts went down faster but as soon as marks started popping up, we lost it.\u00c2\u00a0 With three healers, we lasted longer once marks appeared but we&#8217;d wipe at the frenzy point.\u00c2\u00a0 We tried splitting fire on the Blood Beasts but that usually meant us Hunter&#8217;s at some point kiting out of range of our healers or having trouble getting back in to position to dps Saurfang because of the slow debuff.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This one I think is being caused by gear and some coordination issues.\u00c2\u00a0 We need to whittle Saurfang down a little faster and I think we need to do the split dps on the Blood Beasts.\u00c2\u00a0 However, if we&#8217;re splitting our dps, then timing becomes a factor at times and knowing when to do what, which doesn&#8217;t always work, especially towards the end of the night.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>We eventually went back to normal mode just so we could get past him.\u00c2\u00a0 Again, the difference between normal and heroic mode is just staggering.\u00c2\u00a0 We called it a night at that point, we were just too tired from all the wiping.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The next\u00c2\u00a0night after\u00c2\u00a0we started with heroic Blood Prince Council.\u00c2\u00a0 Which was a complete disaster.\u00c2\u00a0 I&#8217;m still not even 100% sure why we started with them in the first place.\u00c2\u00a0 We just couldn&#8217;t get our coordination down.\u00c2\u00a0 We wiped several times before finally giving up and moving over to Rotface.<\/p>\n<p>Where we wiped some more.\u00c2\u00a0 Heroic Rotface always feels easier to me but something was hinky for us.\u00c2\u00a0 For instance, on one occassion, the vile gas hit the middle of melee causing the wipe.\u00c2\u00a0 And that was with both Hunters and our off-tank at range.\u00c2\u00a0 The only thing I can think of is somehow one of us drifted in too close.\u00c2\u00a0 I think we moved a caster dps to range to help out but since that person wasn&#8217;t used to being at range for that fight, he died and we ran into problems from there.\u00c2\u00a0 We did eventually take him down but it was a long night and we decided to end it right here.\u00c2\u00a0 It just wasn&#8217;t our night.<\/p>\n<p>And neither was the next night, although for entirely different reasons.\u00c2\u00a0 Partically everyone in the group was experiencing 1k+ latency.\u00c2\u00a0 (Mine howevered at 4k the whole night.)\u00c2\u00a0 Considering we had people in Hawaii, Japan, Australia and West Coast US on, we knew it was pretty much on the server end.\u00c2\u00a0 We didn&#8217;t even attempt it with that amount of latency.\u00c2\u00a0 We&#8217;re not that insane.<\/p>\n<p>The night after that, we started with Festergut on heroic mode.\u00c2\u00a0 In this case, it was a combination of some newer fill-ins with lower dps numbers and a non-regular off-tank that did us in.\u00c2\u00a0 We couldn&#8217;t beat the enrage timer and half the time we&#8217;d lose the off-tank midway through the fight anyway.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Instead of stalling out here, we just switched to normal and romped over him so we could get to Putricide.\u00c2\u00a0 Oddly enough, this one went better.\u00c2\u00a0 Granted it was in normal mode but still.\u00c2\u00a0 We wiped the first time because our off-tank, who was controlling the abomination, had UI issues.\u00c2\u00a0 Basically when he was in the abomination, none of the action buttons would show up!\u00c2\u00a0 We switched the tanks around and wiped again, although in this case it was because a healer d\/c in the middle of the fight and we\u00c2\u00a0had been two-healing it.\u00c2\u00a0 Third time was the charm and we took Putricide down promptly.<\/p>\n<p>Then we went back to Blood Prince\u00c2\u00a0Council.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0This fight was on normal but ended up being pretty ugly all the same.\u00c2\u00a0 Once again,\u00c2\u00a0because we didn&#8217; t have\u00c2\u00a0one of our &#8220;usual&#8221; off-tanks, we had one of our other guys use his alt for it.\u00c2\u00a0 Which hurt us in two\u00c2\u00a0ways.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0One was that his main, a shadow\u00c2\u00a0Priest, is\u00c2\u00a0usually our top dps.\u00c2\u00a0 \u00c2\u00a0 Two was that he had a slightly harder time getting proper aggro at times.\u00c2\u00a0 Not sure if it was a technique or gear thing, but it happened quite a bit.<\/p>\n<p>I think we finally took them down with a bit of luck, but it was still ugly.\u00c2\u00a0 I know two kinetic bombs went off, usually dealt with by us Hunters, but I couldn&#8217;t even see them!\u00c2\u00a0 One, judging from where the aoe bolts came from, did not show up once it began to drop.\u00c2\u00a0 Fortunately, our healers covered us but it still pissed me off all the same.<\/p>\n<p>Blood Queen was chaotic, but that was partially because our inexperience for some of our people and a misconfigured add-on.\u00c2\u00a0 We were again using the add-on to dictate who bit who, but since it was misconfigured, it told our bitten player to bite a tank!\u00c2\u00a0 And because that player hadn&#8217;t done that fight before, he didn&#8217;t realize that there was something wrong with that instructions.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>And actually, he even ended up being the first bite by accident.\u00c2\u00a0 Based on threat, usually it&#8217;s the two tanks on top, then us Hunters, then him.\u00c2\u00a0 But our off-tank had a little problem with his threat generation, which meant that both Hunters slipped to 2nd and 3rd.\u00c2\u00a0 Except we pushed into 1st and 2nd, mainly due to the fact that you can go about 120% threat before pulling aggro off the tank and we just eclipsed him barely.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Which left the main tank as third on the threat meter.\u00c2\u00a0 Except I think the Blood Queen won&#8217;t bite someone who has aggro.\u00c2\u00a0 And while he was third, he still had aggro because both of us Hunter&#8217;s were still below 120% of his threat.\u00c2\u00a0 Which meant the fourth person, our dps warrior, got the bite.\u00c2\u00a0 Which led to the hilarity of him biting the main tank!<\/p>\n<p>Okay, maybe not funny at the time but is on reflection.\u00c2\u00a0 Next time, we lost people because of some odd bad luck and again inexperience.\u00c2\u00a0 We lost some people when one of the newer people didn&#8217;t know what to do with the\u00c2\u00a0Pact of the Darkfallen\u00c2\u00a0on him.\u00c2\u00a0 And I died because when she feared us, it sent me directly into the shroud of shadows areas.\u00c2\u00a0 It wasn&#8217;t enough to kill me, but it took me down enough that the bloodbolt took me out.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Then the worst thing happened to me, I disconnected.\u00c2\u00a0 And couldn&#8217;t get on via my WoW client although I could hear everyone in vent.\u00c2\u00a0 I eventually had to reboot my router to get me back online and they went to an entire fight and wipe, without me.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Fortunately, since I&#8217;m generally a dependable regular, they realized it wasn&#8217;t something I did on purpose.\u00c2\u00a0 I think we wiped one more time after that, because we lost a healer somehow.\u00c2\u00a0 The very last time, I managed to get the Vampiric Bite, which meant I saw all sorts of nice pretty, huge damage numbers roll in.\u00c2\u00a0 And I was able to time my bites so that we didn&#8217;t need to do the bites during the air phase.\u00c2\u00a0 Which meant in short order, we had 4 dps with the Essence of the Blood Queen and she went down fast and hard.<\/p>\n<p>Which is where we called it again.\u00c2\u00a0 Just too tired to even attempt Dreamwalker.\u00c2\u00a0 So next will be a couple of nights of the 25-man runs, which I may or may not be invited to, and then back to the 10-man.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, back to me and my new gloves.\u00c2\u00a0 It was an upgrade, but it also broke my tier set bonus.\u00c2\u00a0 So I had to replace my chest piece with the Ahn&#8217;kahar Blood Hunter&#8217;s Tunic to keep the set bonus.\u00c2\u00a0 Which also, unfortunately, cost me some points in hit and on dps.\u00c2\u00a0 Which then meant I had to regem a few items to get my hit adjustment back up to 8%.\u00c2\u00a0 Crazy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After a couple of false starts, we finally had a chance to go back in to Icecrown Citadel 10-man.\u00c2\u00a0 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